open thread – March 4-5, 2022 — Ask a Supervisor



The Friday open thread has been so illuminating.

So I’ve a job supply.  I attempted to jot down about it earlier however everybody right here was like, “wait till you’ve gotten a suggestion”.  And this hiring supervisor needed to supply it to me at 3pm yesterday and have my reply right this moment.  That’s why I take into consideration jobs *earlier than* the supply so I’ve time to contemplate what I would like in an unhurried approach.  I did ask for till Monday morning to determine.

I’m in the course of a pleasant job search.  Out of 21 purposes, I’ve been on 5 telephone screens.  Quickly to be 6 on Tuesday.  Of of the telephone screens I’ve been on one full interview. That yesterday.  She referred to as to supply me the job the identical day.  She could be my direct supervisor.  I had one other full interview right this moment at 12. And I count on to listen to about scheduling a 3rd full interview right this moment as effectively.

Sigh. I’m not super-excited about this function. They requested me a very good query right this moment.  Why have I not risen out of entry stage jobs?  The reality is, nonprofits I’ve been at don’t promote from inside.  And I’ve been too shy to attempt to make a soar with new jobs.  I do strive.  However persons are responding greatest once they see experiences I’ve already had.  So I hold getting the identical sort of job.   So I requested about development.  Within the interview they appeared actually constructive about development. 

The wage was low for issues I’ve accomplished for almost ten years.  Like if the vary was 60,000 – 70,000 they usually provided me $66,500 to begin. I dwell in an costly metropolis.  They don’t know that I used to be already making $66,500 (these aren’t the true numbers, btw). Once I requested with my expertise if I might get the higher vary that had been printed within the job description (as much as $70,000), she mentioned that they needed to present me room to work to $70,000, however that after they’d seen my efficiency I wouldn’t keep at $66,500.  

Then through the well being advantages dialogue I requested if there was a HR division and he or she mentioned that was her.  That was a crimson flag after I mirrored on it.  She looks as if a beautiful caring girl.  My instincts are that she’s good and he or she needs me to work there, however I fear about if she leaves or my instincts are incorrect, there isn’t one other entity aside from the CEO to go to.  

I want I had extra full interviews beneath my belt throughout this search however I don’t.  It doesn’t all the time line up completely.  I actually like her and really feel they’d be supportive to my development of their approach however I additionally felt harassed concerning the wage.  How are you going to count on me to ‘develop’ to the higher vary you’ve gotten posted within the job description?  I assume it’s not of their finances however I don’t know.  It’s the solely supply on the desk.  And I attempted by bit at negotiating nevertheless it didn’t go wherever.

I do want a job, however one thing concerning the particulars of this one, they aren’t unhealthy, however I don’t really feel supported by the wage.  However it’s a chicken within the hand.

1. – I do assume I ought to consider carefully a couple of job earlier than the supply.  I had scant hours between interview and supply.  Why do hiring managers need you to determine by the following day?

2. – I might find yourself with nothing. Or a hiring supervisor much less supportive.  I’ve nobody at present to match her to. (See ETA: Now I do.)

3. – Hiring managers – do you ever rent individuals who on paper may not have the expertise however have nice cowl letters?  I really feel I’m doing the identical job again and again at completely different locations and those with management and the expansion I would like don’t supply me even a telephone display screen.  

Thanks, commentariat!

ETA:  They withdrew the supply.  From factors I introduced up.  First, my wage necessities. Second, they mentioned they couldn’t discover all of my references although I instructed her on the telephone that I needed to get permission from the references to present out telephone numbers. I’ll heat my references up in future, however they even needed a peer and I would like to succeed in out to him first since I don’t normally confer with friends.  I don’t work with him anymore so this takes time.

I believe they provided that job to me too quick and I maintain no unwell will in any respect to them. However now I don’t know what to inform the opposite place (which looks as if a greater match) as a result of I instructed them I had a suggestion and they’re dashing their course of a bit to accommodate that. That mentioned, that interview went very well. However I don’t assume it’s incorrect to take my time. And if I inform them the opposite place is out of the operating, how phrase it in order that they don’t assume I dropped it for them? Which I didn’t. However Different Place doesn’t must know the small print, actually.



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